Northeast Jeep Organization, Inc.

Public Area => Land Use => Topic started by: CTAVIATOR on December 05, 2017, 07:38:07 PM

Title: COREC
Post by: CTAVIATOR on December 05, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
what's everyone's thoughts on corec being able to leverage DEEP to get us local areas to wheel? I joined up and paid their fee because it sounds promising. Would be great to have something that's local.

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Title: Re: COREC
Post by: joe98tj on December 05, 2017, 10:18:24 PM
They're still a long way off but good progress seems to be happening. I've been reluctant to join with trying to balance building the jeep and working on joining this club so I wouldn't have much time to help out. The only thing that concerns me is they don't have a vetting process in place to weed out bad eggs. Hopefully no one comes in and ends up halting or setting back any progress they have made. It would be cool to have some class 6 roads like they have up in Mass. The property they have now should eventually set as a good example for how the organization can create, maintain, and monitor the use of land dedicated to offroading. That is, if they can hold on to that property and nothing bad happens with the owner. Theres a lot of what ifs that could happen and ruin it all but like I said, from the outside it seems like good progress is being made and I'm just happy someone is out there trying to make Connecticut begin to realize we're not all teenagers with POS jeeps and trucks with 4 wheel drive that look to rip and tear up every mud hole we find just to get the vehicle dirty to post on instagram.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: A new level on December 06, 2017, 05:51:16 AM
They are going to have some growing pains
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: YJScrounge on December 06, 2017, 06:46:06 AM
They are a lobbying organization with a long road ahead. Numbers are needed and frankly will take anyone that pretty much fills out an app. It's up to the general membership to watch over our right to wheel and change behavior. We have to monitor it. All of us...
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: Gorilla_Skater on December 06, 2017, 07:36:30 AM
The key thing with COREC is that they decided to represent multi use, not just jeeps or not just atvs and side by sides. While it makes the organization big, everyone is in on the ground floor starting to work together. Personally, I am a believer in the unified voice that many of the Land Use Advocates preach.

There are many that have said "We (they) tried before, but failed. There will never be any offroading on state land in CT. " Matt House wouldn't accept that. Remember, it took Marc Pouliot and NWOR 10+ years of working with New Hampshire Legislature to get Jericho Trail open to the public. The never give up attitude is what got it done.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: Greenhorn on December 06, 2017, 07:59:57 AM
There's a gigantic liberal, tree hugging hurdle in front of it all that makes their mission seem hopeless.
A blue state government, hot air ship, that's so inflated with bureaucracy that it can't even turn or maneuver.
But Rey made a great positive point, "never give up".

  WE are responsible to reach out to those rogue, illegal, beer can slinging, yahoo wheelers and educate them on the right and wrong way to participate in this sport. Point out to them that what they are doing is wrong and that not getting caught or "nobody says anything"  DOES NOT make it OK.  Tell them the benefits of belonging to organized communities.
Join a club. Convert.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: YJScrounge on December 06, 2017, 08:45:29 AM
Ive brought this up before. There is a reason adult riders in CT arent required to wear a helmet. Get 400 paticipantes at the State Capitol in an orderly organized fashion, even the liberals take notice. 400 votes is a scarey thing to them and they do notice. There was a helmet law in the 70’s. It was overturned.  Its doable with persistence and orderly numbers.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: HankD on December 06, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Persistence and numbers of the tree huggers is why we do not have any public land wheeling.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: YJScrounge on December 06, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
Persistence and numbers of the tree huggers is why we do not have any public land wheeling.

So, then again, create a force to be reconded with. It isn’t the tee huggers. It’s all about State Liability is why we have limited access.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: Angrytj on December 06, 2017, 12:06:28 PM
I did join to at minimum donate $25 to the cause and be notified of trail cleanup days but I'm with Joe here and worried without a vetting process there will be plenty of bad eggs.

In the comments of the facebook posts alone it was turning into a zoo where COREC had to then post rules to follow because they don't want to have a bad image.

I think the individuals running it are very smart and determined so I'm willing to help when I can and make the dream a reality. They have land so its a step in the right direction now we just need to make sure people don't trespass and ruin it for everyone.
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: CTAVIATOR on January 04, 2018, 07:19:39 PM
I joined too, figure if they can lobby successfully is a win win for only $25

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Title: Re: COREC
Post by: x10shooter on January 19, 2018, 01:32:22 PM
Gentlemen and perhaps ladies,

I want to thank you for your positive thoughts. I am Matthew House of COREC and everything you have said here is true. We knew going into this we would have a some problems but if that is really going to deter anyone from doing what needs to be done, how would we ever get anywhere? I'm going to bring up something that we don't want everyone to see or hear. First of all, the DEEP has thrown out their gauntlet called the "ATV Plan" since we began working on phase 2 of trail assessment on 16,000 acres. No, it doesn't have anything to do with 4x4's but it can easy be rewritten to do that by the DEEP. The fact that this plan is not law nor is it policy and just a set of guidelines lends us well to fight it but the question is how do we do that?.. Since the DEEP won't modify or rewrite the ATV plan we are suspecting we will be starting from the top down. This begins with legislature. Since the DEEP takes their "orders" from the laws generated in the LoB in Hartford then that's where we need to be. the problem is that as an organization, we need to come up with a plan to do this and this is why we need your help, clubs and individuals alike. Sure, I can go to the capitol and shake my fist all I want but if we don't have numbers to back that up like the conservancy groups do, it's a losing ticket. This is why we need membership and the reason why we aren't just some FB group that thinks they're a real organization like I see of many pages out there. If we don't have documented numbers, it's going to be a loosing battle. We need to act as a group, as one entity, as many other organizations have done elsewhere in the country. When is the last time you witnessed a law passed that actually benefited the real off roading community? I won't hold my breath... We've been getting hammered by politicians making laws for something they have no clue how to control, regulate or even make profitable to the state. This is the reason why we are in this pickle. Not only that but the bad press is killing us like what was mentioned of the beer can throwing, trash dumping folks that really have nothing to do with us, we get the blame. But.. I digress. We are trying our hardest to build this thing called COREC and I have to say it's easily the hardest thing I have ever done. The raw amount of planning that goes into what seems to be the simplest of things is just astonishing. We have to be careful that every move that we make now, only affects us positively in the future or at least that is what we attempt to do every time but, we're not perfect and there is no "how-to" book for this. I want to make sure you all know that we are busting or tails to create COREC and make it to an effective organization. The more planning we do now, the easier things will be down the road. Thank you for reading my book..  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COREC
Post by: A new level on January 19, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
If there's one thing politicians are good at is make laws they have no clue about especially in CT! Keep up the good work Matt, it ain't an easy trail ahead but I'm hopeful we will prevail!