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Offline bigdaddymack51

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8.8 Swap
« on: March 09, 2017, 07:33:50 AM »
Doing a 8.8 swap into a 06 TJ (finally)  , anyone do this ?   Would you use the 8.8 sway bar or the TJ sway bar. I know they are opposite sides of the axle (F&B) but Im using the "Airtec" Truss kit with all the brackets and want to be sure I have room before finish welding it. Thanks FjR68

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 08:52:02 AM »
I wouldn't even bother with the sway bar, its pencil thin..
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 09:53:01 AM »
I would also skip the rear sway bar. I pulled the rear off my XJ, left it on Emily's XJ, same suspension, and I honestly think my Jeep feels more stable than hers. The width of the tires has more of an effect on stability than that pencil thin rear sway bar does.

The one advantage the XJ has over the TJ as far as stability is rear leaf springs. It may sway more with the coils in the back than my XJ's do.

Didn't have to think about what to do with the 8.8 in my YJ, those didn't have a sway bar from the factory.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 12:01:15 PM »
I would run an aftermarket sway bar in the rear.  It's going to be really loose back there if you don't.

I took mine off my XJ, but that was leaf springs, not coils.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 08:34:54 PM »
I haven't had a rear sway bar in my TJ in 2 years.  It's been fine.  Throw them away.  I'm not putting one in when I do my swap next weekend.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 08:50:16 PM »
Food  fore thought you get into an accident your vehicle does not have a sway bar it's the  other guys fault, they  total your vehicle, and take it,  they check it out and fined parts that could have made  A difference in the out come aren't there.     Then you want to file a medical claim And they  won't pay.  Saying you're partially libel.   

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 08:53:06 PM »
Mine passed state inspection without it, good enough for me.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 08:59:42 PM »
Mine passed state inspection without it, good enough for me.

The state inspection made me change all the  bushings on my  rear sway bar .

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 07:09:20 AM »
This is a daily so I just assumed you would need a sway bar back there .  Yes , No ?   It will be stable enough for on-off road ?     FjR68

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 01:39:17 PM »
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 02:24:32 PM »

 I wouldn't take out the swaybar, I ran my Jeep without it and I didn't like the feeling on the highway, It's personal preference...  I'd leave the TJ bar in there and weld on the brackets to suit.  You can always try running it without, even with the brackets welded on...  I guess I'm saying don't short yourself.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 07:40:24 PM »
Mine passed state inspection without it, good enough for me.

The state inspection made me change all the  bushings on my  rear sway bar .

I had a broken end link so I just ripped the whole thing out.  If it's not there, it's not broken.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2017, 07:41:41 PM »
This is a daily so I just assumed you would need a sway bar back there .  Yes , No ?   It will be stable enough for on-off road ?     FjR68

Mine is a daily in excess of 30k a year.  I didn't even notice a difference.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 06:45:31 AM »
My CJ is 4 linked/coil rear and I do have to respect street cornering .  Highway and road driving are totally fine.  Reading all the reply's shows its what your comfortable with. Im going to install the brackets and use the TJ bar as it fit the configuration of the links, even though the Exploder bar is thicker.  Thank you all for input .   At least it will be the last time Im under this thing ,,,,  well for the R&P anyway !      FjR68 

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 12:14:16 PM »
Thats prob your best bet!

If its a daily I would put one on.

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2017, 09:59:12 PM »
This is a daily so I just assumed you would need a sway bar back there .  Yes , No ?   It will be stable enough for on-off road ?     FjR68

Short arm you want it, long arm its not that big of a deal.

If its a DD I would put it on, its only a few welds and it will help.  If its mostly a wheeler I would skip it.
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 06:13:35 AM »
One more question ?  Any one make E-Brake cables to hook back up to the TJ main cable ?     FjR68

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 06:33:40 AM »
There are little tabs you can buy that allow you to use the factory tj cables with the 8.8 e brake
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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 06:43:55 AM »
There are little tabs you can buy that allow you to use the factory tj cables with the 8.8 e brake

I got mine form Brian, redtj. They worked perfectly.

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Re: 8.8 Swap
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2017, 06:15:43 AM »
What do these tabs look like and who sells them ? Something I can make ?  I was also told the Grand (ZJ) cables are a direct swap .    Thanks FjR68

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8.8 Swap
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2017, 07:21:55 AM »
If the ZJ brake cables work than I have a solution that uses the stock cables, cost me like $5. I'll dig up some pictures. I am running ZJ disk brakes on the back of my XJ. I just loosened up my adjuster and wrapped the cables around the finger and cable tied it to itself. Been like that for quite a while now with no issues. The cables do stretch again though and kind of set into place and you have to adjust them after you use it a couple times.

Also, not sure if the TJ's use the same adjustor as the XJ's, but if they do than I imagine yours is as locked up as mine was. Since the adjusters are not made any more, this is a cheap and easy way to make a new one.

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Hardest part of reusing your cables is getting the spring off, once that's done, wrap the cable around the finger and clamp it to itself. Make sure you get it close to the finger so it can't slip off. I used two cable toes just to be safe. They are like $1 each at tractor supply. Maybe even cheaper. Pictures kind of speak for themselves.



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