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Offline Broken99TJ

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People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« on: April 04, 2017, 06:07:24 AM »
So we start with skid plates, rocker rails, gas tank skid, and add in front/rear bumpers with a winch.
Then we add tube fenders and a cage. How about those steel corner thingy's.
So then we re-gear, way to low with 5.13's and 4:1 transfer case, now we can't even back-up?
Since we can weld let's add one ton axles, and an exoskeleton. Also throw on those 50lb hummer rims.
Hmmm, I wonder why I'm getting stuck on a flat surface?  :eek:

I take a lot of ribbing about the kids sled as for a gas tank skid  :eek:, but the weight of your Jeep is a major factor.
Looking forward to your comments  :rotflmao:

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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 07:06:18 AM »
I finally decided that since I like welding and building stuff on it so much that I keep running out of frame room, tub room, weight capacity, I now am back to a 77 F350.

I can weld the crap out of a flatbed, roll bars, etc.....truck wont care and is much more useful if I leave some room on the flatbed, lol

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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 07:13:56 AM »
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 07:19:10 AM »
I think a lot of it is because we can. Another part is safety is a huge thing for me. We overbuild to avoid breaking. One other challenge I wold add is the need for a V8. I realize different torque factors, tires, gears but...
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 07:39:03 AM »
I like my 5100 pound tj ..... with hummer wheels.... tons ... and 5.13
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 08:06:06 AM »
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 08:34:23 AM »
What is going on in this thread??? Are we ranting? Raving? Or just typing words?
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 08:46:20 AM »
just typing words

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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2017, 08:56:21 AM »
This is why I have a frameless Jeep, nice and light. Now I can weld a frame under it so it's strong enough to wheel  :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 09:04:55 AM »
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5100 pound
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5100 may sound like a lot; but the jeep will do 80 down the highway, comfortable enough for a multiple hour drive, and still goes good in the woods.

as long as the power / gearing is there to move the weight, I dont see overall rig weight as an issue. If anything a heavier vehicle with the same aired down contact pattern on the rocks will go better... More gription bro
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2017, 09:06:01 AM »
so we should all strive to have a jeep held together with ducttape? I mean it is light.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 09:10:53 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2017, 09:14:59 AM »
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2017, 10:11:29 AM »
5100 isn't bad considering your frame is hand built and over engineered! 

If I had time, energy and money, I would do exactly what Tom did.  No need for a V8 in a TJ, you need torque not HP.  The 4.0 delivers plenty for a Jeep.
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2017, 10:37:11 AM »
The other weekend at the summit, we were dealing with slippery / snowy conditions. Wheel speed was required in some spots. for most of the wheeling we do having lower gearing is awesome. however doug got into a couple spots where his 4:1 t case couldn't spin the tires fast enough. The 2.5 was tacked out trying to get enough wheel speed. Thats the only time gearing kills you.
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2017, 10:37:39 AM »
Thanks Bruce  :smile:
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2017, 10:52:38 AM »
Tom's Jeep is built for a V8.

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2017, 10:53:16 AM »
Toms jeep is built for a stroker 6 .....
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2017, 11:07:17 AM »
More weight = more effort to move = more stress.  It's a balancing act between weight vs strength vs benefits.  And for those of us who's Jeep is also a daily driver, weight is an MPG killer.  I'm always thinking of  the benefit of adding something vs its weight, which is one reason why I haven't replaced the light (cheap) factory rear bumper.  If the factory one gets damaged bad enough, then I'll replace it.
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2017, 11:17:45 AM »
I get miles per gallon.... 8 to be exact
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2017, 11:28:35 AM »
I have no idea on mpg. Don't really care as it isn't a DD
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2017, 11:37:29 AM »
What do you mean "wheel" your Jeep?  Mine came from the factory with 5 wheels.  Is there something I'm missing?
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2017, 11:40:34 AM »
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2017, 11:43:35 AM »
More weight = more effort to move = more stress.  It's a balancing act between weight vs strength vs benefits.  And for those of us who's Jeep is also a daily driver, weight is an MPG killer.  I'm always thinking of  the benefit of adding something vs its weight, which is one reason why I haven't replaced the light (cheap) factory rear bumper.  If the factory one gets damaged bad enough, then I'll replace it.

Brad is on it. Broken's statement about big heavy Jeeps getting stuck on the flat is an exaggeration, but the point is that weight does matter. That is why you end up compensating for it.
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Re: People that weld shouldn't build Jeeps.
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2017, 11:55:22 AM »
The other weekend at the summit, we were dealing with slippery / snowy conditions. Wheel speed was required in some spots. for most of the wheeling we do having lower gearing is awesome. however doug got into a couple spots where his 4:1 t case couldn't spin the tires fast enough. The 2.5 was tacked out trying to get enough wheel speed. Thats the only time gearing kills you.

why you throwing me under the bus?  :mad02:

In my case I could overcome the gearing (by upshifting) to get the wheel speed, the problem is my 4 cylinder doesn't have the power in 2nd and would have stalled out.
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