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toe in question
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:59:43 AM »
Hey guys,
after that Harris mountain ride and climbing bouncing over a log, my steering wheel is off / abs light on .  I know I can center it with the drag link but I really want to check the toe.(don't think anything is bent).My question is what should your toe in be (no more than 1/16?) i forget...
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 01:56:11 PM »
check you Tie rod, sounds like it got a little bend...

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Re: toe in question
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2017, 02:27:21 PM »
I believe it's 1/16th to 1/8th at the tread.
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2017, 04:50:19 PM »
You bent something.  I know the feeling


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Re: toe in question
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2017, 05:19:48 PM »
1/16-1/8

Yep, you bent something...
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 05:38:11 PM »
oh well part of the game.......although i can't see anything obvious but ill look again..and went out for a ride today and finally that abs light went off...who knows.....lol
ran an old fashioned string alignment and front wheels show parallel...I don't see the toe in..hmmm
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2017, 05:46:08 PM »
rockkrawler tie rods in the future ...? maybe ....unless you have other suggestions.....thanks guys
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2017, 06:29:51 PM »
what have you guys upgraded your tie rods or drag links to?   synergy , teraflex? or are you running oem
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2017, 06:55:13 PM »
For a 2013 JK ?

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Re: toe in question
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2017, 06:58:51 PM »
Front to back isn't you problem, it's your front two wheels  /  \  are toed in not   l  l   Parallel

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Re: toe in question
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2017, 07:03:18 PM »
It will turn the steering wheel to the right

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Re: toe in question
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2017, 08:32:03 PM »
I run the string from back to front.  Touches front and back of REAR wheels and usually rear of FRONT wheel but not front (usually 1/16 free of touching).. However this time it touches both sides of front wheel (front and back).. Which shows it to be more parallel , rather than toe in (which I don't want)... alignment  time I think
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2017, 09:17:51 PM »
That's not really how you should be checking toe in.

Check out this thread on wrangler forum for performing a driveway alignment. That's the method I use.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f210/basic-tj-lj-front-alignment-86996.html
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2017, 11:00:09 PM »
If your going to upgrade you steering,  wait till you finish your upgrade, then do the alignment .

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Re: toe in question
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Re: toe in question
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2017, 06:48:13 AM »
Unless you run wheel spacers to even them off , The front track is always wider than the rear so the string thing wont work.  The rulers and straight edge on the rotors will be the closest way to check .  You can also mark the center of the tire with chalk on jack stands and at hub height check distance both front and back .   If the wheel was straight and now its not , you had to have bent something .   FjR68

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Re: toe in question
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2017, 08:36:06 AM »
That's not really how you should be checking toe in.

Check out this thread on wrangler forum for performing a driveway alignment. That's the method I use.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f210/basic-tj-lj-front-alignment-86996.html

I made a bolt on version of this  using 1x1 alum angle.

Your tire side walls will be off more than 1/16- 1/8".  Either check with tires off (above)  or spin the tire and mark Center with chalk then check F/R of tire
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2017, 09:09:23 AM »
Thanks ,, your right doesn't work well,,, I'll check out that link you sent ... weekend project ...although seems the track well
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2017, 09:16:04 AM »
when you adjust your drag link to correct the steering wheel you will affect the toe.  I've had good luck with angle aluminum or steel on the outside of the tire about mid length up, tie or bungee to the wheel and take your measurements.  Remember, to lift one tire when you make your adjustments.  It will be easier and its more accurate.  be sure to drop the tire before you take the measurement.  Its alot of up/down but I've never paid for an alignment and it works pretty well.
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2017, 09:17:20 AM »
Hey what are you guys running for tie rods n drag links...stock or not?
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2017, 02:02:14 PM »
How was Harris Mountain?
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2017, 03:15:16 PM »
I'm running all Rock Krawler, stuff is beefy! If you want to check it out let me know. I live right down the road. Be very careful adjusting your drag link! Chances are you will set off the stabilitrack buy not having the steering wheel perfectly straight. It's a PITD to get it right. The dealership usually needs to reset the computer.
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2017, 04:49:10 PM »
harris mountain was awesome....something for everyone
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Re: toe in question
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2017, 05:14:02 PM »
thinking of adding the teraflex tie rod, lifetime warranty and beefy....dont really know if i need the upgraded drag link from them.. but still researching....all good
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