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Offline markus68

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onboard air or portable
« on: May 15, 2017, 07:08:22 PM »
Ok only been on 2 rides so far, but i always head towards the nearest gas station to re air tires....Trying to decide on a portable or onboard air system...what do you guys run or recommend ?
thanks in advance
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2017, 07:39:36 PM »
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 08:03:47 PM »
Yup, I've been running the red compressor for over 10 years. My first one crapped out pretty sure because I ran it without a filter the last 2 years of it's life. It lasted about 9 years.

I bought another one, but I bought a co2 set up this season. Since I flat tow, it will be nice to be aired up quicker. It'll definitely be faster. It costs more (a little less than $200 for everything). You have to get it filled, which is one more thing to do and more $. Also harder to store in the Jeep. It's bigger then the compressor and it has to be secured unless you want a missile to go off in your back seat. lol

http://forum.northeastjeep.org/index.php?topic=28917.0

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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 08:15:35 PM »
Ok thats the way ill be going then...thanks
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 08:49:51 PM »
wow great price.....I was originally looking at Viair but this price beats that idea...lol
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 09:43:49 PM »
CFM rating is key!  Most of the portable 12V air compressors are rated at 0 PSI to boost their numbers.  If the compressor has to be hard wired and draws 30 amps @ 12V then it's generally good!  Bang for the buck / CFM - the Master Flow beats the VIAR... 

I installed a tiny compressor for my ARB (probably could have run the ARB off a straw in a pinch!)

When it comes to airing up - electric compressors you are talking 4 minutes per tire, when you go with a CO2 set-up, you are talking seconds!

With my CO2 set-up I'm at 46 seconds to air up my 35's from 10 PSI to 25 PSI...  One 10lb tank lasts me all season (typically 3 runs) and has some left over for air tools to run an impact gun on the trail to change ball joints  :cool: ) ...  I dropped down to a 5lb tank on my newer TJ since I only have to air up myself and not others (~ 2lb of CO2 for one air up)

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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 10:54:04 PM »
York !
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 11:08:01 PM »
York !

I forgot to mention the engine driven option!  The York Piston Driven AC Compressor from the 70's and 80's cars and trucks is at around 4 CFM! 

I have one, but I'm not sure I have the space.   I don't know anything about air compressors  :cool:
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 06:57:44 AM »
wow great price.....I was originally looking at Viair but this price beats that idea...lol

I bought a Viair compressor last year, and while it gets the job done in the end - it takes forever and it gets red hot while doing it.  I went Co2 this year and am keeping the viair for a backup.
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 04:55:14 PM »
wow maybe I should look at the co2..hmm
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2017, 08:38:42 AM »
I hard mounted a hf compressor with air line in the back tub with a toggle on the dash. I hate unpacking stuff to use it. Downside is it takes minutes to fill a tire...
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 10:54:47 AM »
Here's my tank mounted behind the rear seat with an Amerex extinguisher bracket.  Simple, easy to remove, and secure.
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 01:15:10 PM »
Here's my tank mounted behind the rear seat with an Amerex extinguisher bracket.  Simple, easy to remove, and secure.

Did you paint that, or did it come like that? We had to turn ours in each time we filled it so we didn't paint it or change it. Do you know if you have to turn yours in? If not, what type of tank did you get?
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2017, 01:22:17 PM »
You can get it refilled at All Gas in Hartford while you wait.  Mary bought my take for Christmas one year and I will not exchange a nice shiny well maintained new tank for a POS exchanged tank.

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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2017, 01:49:09 PM »
You can get it refilled at All Gas in Hartford while you wait.  Mary bought my take for Christmas one year and I will not exchange a nice shiny well maintained new tank for a POS exchanged tank.

Thanks Bruce!  That is exactly what happened to us. I was so mad!
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2017, 09:26:27 AM »
but then the hydro test is on you ....

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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2017, 09:40:22 AM »
but then the hydro test is on you ....



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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2017, 09:50:17 AM »
that solves that then
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2017, 06:19:29 PM »
Will the Flow Master fill a tire to 125 psi. That's what my new trailer tires get filled to.
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Re: onboard air or portable
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2017, 06:58:33 PM »
Will the Flow Master fill a tire to 125 psi. That's what my new trailer tires get filled to.
  Never tried - but the fixed regulator is 150 PSI
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