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Offline RedJeepster1

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Project Silver XJ
« on: September 06, 2017, 06:09:39 AM »
Figured it's time to start a build thread to keep all this in one place. Picture heavy.

Purchased in November last year for about $150. Pretty clean shell. Ian took the drivetrain for his 4wd swap in his green XJ and I kept the shell to build as a rust free Jeep.



Didn't really start working on it until late July early August this year. Plan is to have it at Rocktoberfest the first weekend in October. Started ordering parts for it months ago. 4.56 gears, IRO full length stiffeners, 3.5" IRO military wrap leafs, 3.5" RE front coils, bolstering shocks, Clayton 3 link drop out crossmember, Clayton front truss, WJ knuckles and brakes, GM tre's, JJ's, heims, DOM... bunch of other stuff, been collecting for months.

35" treadwrights on JKR wheels. Hand mounted them one day after work. Now I can say I did it, but I think next time I'll bring it to the shop.



Started with frame stiffeners in the rear. Pulled the rear axle, springs, shocks, bumper, and ground all the undercoat off. Then ground the frame clean to accept the stiffeners.



Stiffeners welded on.



Once stiffeners were done, I cut the stock shackle boxes out and set up my shackle relocation. Final angle seems pretty good. This is with 200 lbs in the trunk.



While this was going on I have been collecting parts for the front suspension. Johney joints, bushings, TRE's for the steering, heims for he track bar. DOM for the links and Clayton crossmember and truss.






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88 YJ, D30, D35, 4.10's, 4.6L Stroker, MPFI, Skyjacker 2.5" Lift, 33's
00 XJ, HP30, Front Truss, WJ Knuckles, High Steer, 3 link, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromo's, IRO Leafs, 4.56's, Rebuilt 4.0, JK Rubi Wheels, 35's

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 06:13:19 AM »
Saturday I pulled the drivetrain that I will be using in he silver Jeep. 4.0 with 210k and AW4 and NP231 with 357k from my red Jeep. That Jeep has been very reliable while I have owned it so although the drivetrain is high mileage, I'm not too worried about it. Swapped two rear axles and pulled the drivetrain in about 6 hours. Had lots of help and everything had been out before so it went pretty smooth.








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00 XJ, HP30, Front Truss, WJ Knuckles, High Steer, 3 link, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromo's, IRO Leafs, 4.56's, Rebuilt 4.0, JK Rubi Wheels, 35's

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 06:17:00 AM »
Sunday I started my SYE install but stretched a snap ring. Last night I picked up a 21 spline transfer case from my neighbor that he was going to scrap, pulled it apart and reassembled my 231 with the SYE. All sealed up, just needs the yokes torqued when I put it in the Jeep.



Also spent a little time prepping my front axle for the front truss. I think I am happy with the fit at this point but I still have to trim the cast mount a little more so I have a nice area to weld. I have new lower control arm mounts and sprig perches to go on also before I weld the truss in place.




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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 06:52:41 AM »
there's no thumbs up so I'll give you the big clap  :applaud:

this is what every XJ owner wishes they did from the start

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 07:16:37 AM »
Nice job, lotta work going on there...
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 07:24:54 AM »
Definitely a clinic in how to build an XJ. Great work so far Jeremy!
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 07:28:29 AM »
Can't wait to see this in person. Your doing hell of a job!
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 10:09:46 AM »
Good Job!  Nice write up!!
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 10:18:37 AM »
Are you going to use wheel spacers/adapters for the JK rims? I was thinking of going to JK rims.
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 10:55:13 AM »
Are you going to use wheel spacers/adapters for the JK rims? I was thinking of going to JK rims.

Yup, I'll be running 2" spacer adapters. I needed to jump to 17" wheels to clear the larger WJ front brakes and I got 5 JKR wheels for $125. I also always liked the silver JK wheels on the silver XJ's, so it was a no brainer.
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00 XJ, HP30, Front Truss, WJ Knuckles, High Steer, 3 link, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromo's, IRO Leafs, 4.56's, Rebuilt 4.0, JK Rubi Wheels, 35's

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 10:59:28 AM »
Silver XJ's are the best ones.

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 11:01:53 AM »
Cool, are you running 35's? I have this theory that a 35" tire on a 15" rim is just about the limit to be able to balance them well enough to run at highway speeds. That's why some companies don't even bother making 35x12.50-15. Just a theory.

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 11:26:37 AM »
Yes, rims are 17x7.5 and tires are 35x12.5R17 Treadwright Guard Dogs. Got the tires on a sale for less than $850 for 5 shipped to my door.
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00 XJ, HP30, Front Truss, WJ Knuckles, High Steer, 3 link, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromo's, IRO Leafs, 4.56's, Rebuilt 4.0, JK Rubi Wheels, 35's

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2017, 01:29:37 PM »
How the heck did you mount all those with just tire spoons. I just about killed myself trying to change my rims. I got one tire fully remounted and could only get the first bead on the other three on. I had to bring them to a shop to get the outer bead on.
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2017, 03:29:36 PM »
How the heck did you mount all those with just tire spoons. I just about killed myself trying to change my rims. I got one tire fully remounted and could only get the first bead on the other three on. I had to bring them to a shop to get the outer bead on.

You need to make a tire machine that goes in your receiver hitch.  Pretty simple and works AWESOME.  Makes Boggers go on like Butta

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2017, 03:33:02 PM »
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 03:41:54 PM »
Mounted them up with two tire spoons and a bottle of soapy water. I think the 5 tire's took a little over 2 hours.


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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2017, 03:51:04 PM »
been changing tires by hand my whole life...
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93YJ: Waggy 44 HD's F&R, Rear Detroit Locker, Front Eaton Elec Selectable, 5:13 Motive, Anti-Wrap Bar, WARN Hubs, 6" Lift on 35" Mud Terrains, 4.0 HO w/K&N Air Tube, Live Wire Ignition, WARN 8,000 lb Winch, AtoZ Cage and Sliders, FX Tuner Seats w/Harnesses, OBA, SOA

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2017, 04:07:58 PM »
never had a problem doing LTB's and Q's by hand, wonder if they're easier bc of bias ply or 15" or just lower tolerance mfg from interco?

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 04:11:09 PM »
Are you going for a low COG build? What are your plans for fenders/flares?

Noticed you went with the no lift version of the shackle boxes and only 3.5" coils

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 05:23:42 PM »
Are you going for a low COG build? What are your plans for fenders/flares?

Noticed you went with the no lift version of the shackle boxes and only 3.5" coils

So fenders, currently I won't be running any. Down the road I would like to build some steel ones for it. Once I know my fenders are trimmed the way I want.

As far as whether it's going to be LCOG or not, I guess it's a matter of how you define it. My red Jeep was 1.5" on 33's so that definitely was. This should sit at about 4.5" on 35's. so low but not as low as my red Jeep. I want a little more room so it can stretch its legs.

I don't want the Jeep to be super high, but not super low either.


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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 06:39:05 PM »
I think of 6" as the standard lift for 35's so I'd call it low, I like it! Locked & Low is the way to go. I just swapped out the RE 3.5" coils for RE 4.5" and they're not much taller net lift even though they're a solid 3"+ longer unsprung. 230lbs vs 180 lbs. Hopefully I'll be wheeling on 34x10.50 LTB's next year.

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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 07:11:05 PM »
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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2017, 07:14:31 PM »
I think of 6" as the standard lift for 35's so I'd call it low, I like it! Locked & Low is the way to go. I just swapped out the RE 3.5" coils for RE 4.5" and they're not much taller net lift even though they're a solid 3"+ longer unsprung. 230lbs vs 180 lbs. Hopefully I'll be wheeling on 34x10.50 LTB's next year.

I can't wait! I wasn't in the club when it had all the XJ's, but I can only hope they start coming back!


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Re: Project Silver XJ
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2017, 08:04:44 PM »
Not as much progress tonight, but I got the old lower control arm brackets cut off, cleaned the axle some, and welded the new lower control arm mounts on. New mounts are 1/4" artec mounts with built in skids. Wayyy heavier duty than the stock mounts.





Left the coil buckets in place so I could use them for alignment. Gotta borrow a plasma cutter and then I'll get the buckets off and replaced.


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00 XJ, HP30, Front Truss, WJ Knuckles, High Steer, 3 link, Locked C8.25 w/ Chromo's, IRO Leafs, 4.56's, Rebuilt 4.0, JK Rubi Wheels, 35's