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Offline Bigben12034

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First Dana 60 Build
« on: September 27, 2017, 02:07:04 PM »
I might be picking up a Front Dana 60 this weekend for my TJ project, I just have a few questions. Its from a 96 f350, it currently has dually hubs on it as well, is this a bad axle choice? It seems like not a very common year to use, I wish I could find a 78-79 for a decent price, but oh well. I've been looking at Artec Swap kits and wanted to know if anyone had experience with them on this specific year. I still have a lot of research I need to do, but I want to get a general consensus on this year axle in a TJ.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 02:50:13 PM »
78-79 isn't the best for a tj. If you use an artec truss you need an 85-97 dana 60
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 02:56:06 PM »
I'm planning on using the artec truss for the 96 Dana 60. My concern is steering, I'm going to stretch the wheelbase and want to full Full Hydraulic. Artec offers Ram Mounts for every Dana 60 it seems besides the 92-97. What are my options when it comes to steering on a 96 Dana 60? I know I'll be swapping over to a high steer kit.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 02:57:19 PM »
I could be wrong, but you can't go full hydro steering and be street legal.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 03:00:48 PM »
I'm glad you mentioned that. I was wondering that myself but never looked into it. Hydraulic  assist is still an option right?

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 03:11:26 PM »
Much like todd mentioned the later axles work much better than the snow fighter axles. The main reason for this is the axle tube on the drivers side is shorter. the snow fighter axles land the front diff right under the crank pulley.

As far as full hydro goes, it sucks on the street! it does not matter how much caster the axle has it will never return to center. The way the charlin* valve functions, it has an integrated pump. The ram is trying to constantly back flow the steering valve.

in all reality, a good 1 ton high steer setup; coupled with a good ram will be more than enough for a tj. if you mod the power steering pump to get more flow, with a large ram youll be in good shape.

Bonus points if you get doube sided high steer arms and run the ram behind the axle !
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 03:15:40 PM »
I guess running full hydro on the streets isn't smart if you blow an engine or hydraulic valve.... that's gotta be scary.  I'll look into some options for running 1 ton steering with an assist. As for steering do you guys recommend PSC?

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2017, 03:18:31 PM »
4500 class hydro
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2017, 03:20:44 PM »
As for steering there are psc, agr, and howe performance..

A friend of mine swears by howe performance but it is super spendy !!!

Redneck ram gets great reviews, and the guy is full of tech.

If your down for doing the cheap and getting dirty. Drill and tap your own box.... quick and painless, and you get to save 300 dollars.

I personally have tapped 4 boxes, so far they are all working. the key is to minimize the amount of chips that go in the box.

Once the box is tapped purchase the 8 inch ram kit on summit racing from trail gear..

Boom into hydro assist for 288 dollars
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2017, 03:21:19 PM »
4500 class hydro



What he said ^

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packaging can be a bit tight but solid setup
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2017, 04:10:27 PM »
I have a 96 F350 axle as well, with all the parts to rebuild, I hope you plan to do a write up lol

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2017, 04:24:41 PM »
I want to do a whole build thread on the project. I have a ton planned and it'll be a long process.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2017, 04:47:51 PM »
Any recommendations on converting for DRW to SRW hubs? Should I swap out the hubs, calipers and rotors or machine them down?

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2017, 05:52:14 PM »
Chevy axle and dana 300 t case.  Easy swap.  End up with a decent length rear driveshaft to boot.  1 ton rear axle and stock is a short shaft.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2017, 05:53:01 PM »
You have to swap most of knuckle hardware.  Do not cut down.  The hubs would be weak.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2017, 06:36:49 PM »
Sorry I'm just a little confused by your response. Sure I could run a chevy Dana 60 with a passenger drop and a Dana 300 but did they offer a High Pinion Version from Chevy? Also, with a stretched wheelbase why would I have a concern of my rear drive angle/drive shaft length? I'm not 100% set on running a dana 300, who knows when the time comes if I have money for an Atlas and find a good deal maybe ill snatch one up.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2017, 08:43:49 PM »
High pinion vs low is just a small difference on Dana 60.  Beside, they were used with big blocks.  Jeep 4.0 is not going to pop it.  With Chevy front axle it also saves any flip kit  on the 300.  Just run a clocking kit and your done.  You can get Chevy 60's in king pin too.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2017, 09:05:55 PM »
So what benefits are there to running a passenger drop chevy, besides running a Dana 300. I don't really want to build my drivetrain around a transfer case I may or may not be using.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2017, 06:18:11 AM »
Why would you truss a Dana 60 for a TJ?

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2017, 08:29:48 AM »
 it probably is over kill to truss a Dana 60 for running 40s, i figured it'd be some added insurance.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2017, 08:40:28 AM »
It makes mounting link brackets easier !
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2017, 09:11:49 AM »
I have assist on my 78-79 60, works great.  I also have my steering behind the axle, give you loads of clearance,  Not sure if that can be done on a BJ 60.
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2017, 12:05:31 PM »
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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2017, 12:23:30 PM »
Built to handle 40s, run 37s or 40s. It's not like I bought tires already, but I don't want to throw a Dana 44 under the front and if I wanna go bigger (as often is the case it seems) I don't want to swap out more parts.

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Re: First Dana 60 Build
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2017, 12:29:20 PM »
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