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Selectable Lockers
« on: November 14, 2017, 04:40:15 PM »
Been reading around for selectable locker choices. I'm leaning towards the Ox locker right now, I like the idea of just a cable shifter and having a pretty neat setup. I've read some good reviews on them too. Looking to only be selectable in the front. I'll probably just put a Detroit in the rear. Wondering what the opinions are around here on Ox vs Eaton and what yall have for personal experiences. I probably wouldn't go ARB with all the problems I've read about them. I've never had good luck with air hoses either.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 04:45:33 PM »
ARB SUCKS ! couldn't pay me to run one of those things

I had fantastic luck with my dana 30 e locker, wheeled it for 2 years now rob runs it. simple apply power and go
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 05:01:35 PM »
I'm running a Detroit locker in the rear. Works great and has the traditional every once in a while "BANG".

Eaton electric selectable up front.

Happy with both.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 05:16:23 PM »
OX is great as long as you don't mind spending the money.

ARB Sucks

I ran a lunchbox locker in the front, never had any problems.  Eaton is the way to go.

ARB Sucks

I run a Detroit in the rear, it takes away from road manors, but it ALWAYS WORKS!

Oh yeah... ARB Sucks!
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 06:29:23 PM »
I love my ARBs so everyone can suck it :)
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 06:30:10 PM »
Also for better road manners possibly consider the detroit in front and selectable in the rear
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 06:33:15 PM »
I love my ARBs so everyone can suck it :)

That's funny right there! LOL
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 06:46:46 PM »
I run an Ox in the front and grizzy auto locker in the rear. I love the Ox, install was straightforward and I've never had a problem in the 2 plus years with it.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 07:55:07 PM »
Also for better road manners possibly consider the detroit in front and selectable in the rear
  That's how my new to me TJ came.  Detroit in the front in 4WD Hi on the pavement in the snow is a bit scary.  On the trail it's point and shoot - hardly ever turned on the rear locker.  But it tends to be hard to steer on tight turns...  My set-up in my old YJ was the exact opposite - Detroit in the rear and ARB up front
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 10:18:08 PM »
ARB SUCKS ! couldn't pay me to run one of those things

I had fantastic luck with my dana 30 e locker, wheeled it for 2 years now rob runs it. simple apply power and go

What he said^^^
Selectable up front is awesome on the trail.  Can’t make a corner, turn it off and go.
Also, if you happen to rip out the wires it’s easier to reconnect than to patch an air tube

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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 10:24:00 PM »
Definitely going selectable up front, just torn between Eaton and ox

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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 11:11:33 PM »
I personally like the Eaton better


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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 07:06:44 AM »
I've always heard that if you planned to drive in the snow, you will want a selectable in the front, but it sounds like you are going that direction anyway. One thing nice about the ox, if the cable somehow fails, you can lock or unlock it at the diff with a couple wrenches and leave it that way for the rest of the day.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 07:10:31 AM »
I absolutely concur. If you drive it in the snow regularly, you want a selectable in the front.  I won't let me son drive my Jeep in the snow. It just pushes.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 07:25:48 AM »
So question since we are on this topic, opinions on Auburn Gear electric lockers? They are limited slip when they are turned off and fully locked when they are turned on, priced lower than an Eaton.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 07:56:39 AM »
So question since we are on this topic, opinions on Auburn Gear electric lockers? They are limited slip when they are turned off and fully locked when they are turned on, priced lower than an Eaton.

Not by much.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 08:09:30 AM »
Well on quadratec, choosing them only because they sell Eaton, Auburn Gear, Ox, and ARB, the Auburn comes in over $100 cheaper than any of the other 3. And unlike the Eaton, it's a limited slip when not locked. Not trying to say this is the way to go, but wondering if anyone has any experience with them. Seems like a good option if it is actually a good product. Also uses standard bearings which is a plus if you are regearing, you can just use a standard rebuild kit.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 08:22:56 AM »
We get a discount at 4wd.com as NEJeep members. Give them a call.
http://forum.northeastjeep.org/index.php?topic=22862.0


The discount varies, but if it gets to 10% the Ox is under $800. You still have to buy the shifter.

Interesting thing is that you can shift an Ox manual, electrical or pneumatic.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2017, 08:28:33 AM »
So question since we are on this topic, opinions on Auburn Gear electric lockers? They are limited slip when they are turned off and fully locked when they are turned on, priced lower than an Eaton.


They blow hard ! had one in my dana 35, the lock mech is piss poor at best
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2017, 08:30:34 AM »


One thing nice about the ox, if the cable somehow fails, you can lock or unlock it at the diff with a couple wrenches and leave it that way for the rest of the day.

Another reason I like the manual lock


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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2017, 08:32:32 AM »
We get a discount at 4wd.com as NEJeep members. Give them a call.
http://forum.northeastjeep.org/index.php?topic=22862.0


The discount varies, but if it gets to 10% the Ox is under $800. You still have to buy the shifter.

Interesting thing is that you can shift an Ox manual, electrical or pneumatic.
Ill look into that but the shifter is usually around 80 and cable ranges around another 100 so ill see what pricing it out there comes to but on the ox site its a little less than 1100

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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2017, 09:42:16 AM »
on the ox site its a little less than 1100

$1100!!

That is a shit ton of money to dump into a D30. 

The front waggy D44 in my TJ was selling for $1100 (not what I paid).  It was geared, Full case Detroit, chromo shafts, completely rebuilt, new hubs, 1-ton steering and a drop in for a TJ.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2017, 11:34:44 AM »
Well yeah, you can buy a built axle for close to the same but I'd still spend more building a bigger axle for how I want it built. In the end it would just be overkill for what I do with mine. A HP dana 30 is fine for what I do and I still want a selectable for up front. At the end of the day its just a few hundred bucks difference between the Eaton and the Ox.

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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2017, 12:33:10 PM »
News flash, buying used is cheaper than buying new.
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Re: Selectable Lockers
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 06:24:35 PM »
Well yeah, you can buy a built axle for close to the same but I'd still spend more building a bigger axle for how I want it built. In the end it would just be overkill for what I do with mine. A HP dana 30 is fine for what I do and I still want a selectable for up front. At the end of the day its just a few hundred bucks difference between the Eaton and the Ox.

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