pulling axle tubes

beaker

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Hey guys
What do you think is the best way to grind the welds out for pulling axle tubes?

carbide burrs in an air chuck?
 
Are you pulling the tube out of the center section or the inner c's on a front.  If is out of the center section, I think you'll have the best luck drilling out the welds, if it on the inner c's on the front axle then a angle grinder work best, then get a big sledge hammer and hit it, you'll see the seam. 
 
Pulling the tubes out of the center section.  I have a ford dana 44 front axle that has tubes I can't shorten.  They have those radius arm mounts that can't be cut off as they are the tube.

So I'm going to pull the tubes from a GM 10 bolt (same dia) or a Jeep dana 44 both of which I have, shorten and install into the ford center section.  Depending on what lengths I need I may not have to pull any tubes.  If you don't want the tubes they can be cut nearly flush then split with a sawzall and pulled out.

It's going to be ~61.5" wide when I'm done.  Which is a match for the AMC 20 I just picked up.  The 10 bolt donating matching knuckles in a bolt pattern matching the AMC 20.

Or If I get lazy, slap the GM knuckles on the jeep center and run a 64" wide front low pinion with a 61.5" wide rear.
 
?????? Sounds like an awful lot of work--by the way,don't you want the fronts to be wider than the rear for better driving and tracking?
 
How do you intend to get tubes back in.  I'm pretty sure it a heavy press.  I'm interested in you thoughts, its something I've been thinking about doing myself.  But I've heard you need go size press, tonage wise.
 
sean_cj7 said:
How do you intend to get tubes back in.  I'm pretty sure it a heavy press.  I'm interested in you thoughts, its something I've been thinking about doing myself.  But I've heard you need go size press, tonage wise.
heat the center up a bit and some big treaded rod and tighten it up.... maybe?
 
Got a large propane torch / garage heater.  Going to get the center nice and hot.  Pack the tube in dry ice and slid it in and let everything equalize and hold it tight. 

Sufficient temperature differential can make a press fit a loose fit.  Thus no press needed.

Well that's the theory.  I'll have to tell you how it goes.
 
Yeah, let me know.  I thought I heard something like 50 ton presses required.  I'd make sure the OD of the new tube is right.  That will effect the fit.
 
beaker said:
Got a large propane torch / garage heater.  Going to get the center nice and hot.  Pack the tube in dry ice and slid it in and let everything equalize and hold it tight. 

Sufficient temperature differential can make a press fit a loose fit.  Thus no press needed.

Well that's the theory.  I'll have to tell you how it goes.
i would still draw them together with the rod or somthing
 
A 300 deg F temperature differential should reduce the fit by 0.010.  Since press fits are only ~.001-.003 typically.  Heating one part and cooling the other should work nicely.

Though actual results may not be as good.

I'm more concerned about getting the old tubes out.

Theoretically they should drop in.
 
ive never done it, but, will heating up the cast center  be a good thing? also i bet you only get 1 chance to put it together :mrgreen:. pet i am interested in how it will work. as far as removing the knuckles a machine with a gap lathe  should be able to turn down the old welds then you hammer off. pete
 
for all that work why not just run a waggy dana 44? Or you doing all that work so you can say that you have a high pinion dana 44.  I doubt it is going to be a flex monster or you have 24" of lift and running loader tires.
 
ummm  just checking but where did you get the 0.010"?  Did you actually run the numbers? or just find that online. 
 
Pop out the welds with what you may have handy, torch, drill. Remove the guts first of course. The take a Porta power or small bottle jack inside the pig with a plate smaller diameter than your tube and press out. If it's stubborn cut the tube at the Pig and sawzall thru the tube to split the tube in half. Should be able to do a side in a hour.

Jeff
 
To install the new tube .007 press, soak the tube in liquid Nitrogen and install quick before tube heats up. Hold in place as the tube will bounce when cold. Liquid Nitrogen is available at most welding supply stores.
 
as for the .010, I ran the numbers.

Liquid nitrogen isn't nearly as easy to get as dry ice (-100) and using heat to get to +200 thus a 300 degree difference.
 
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