Suspension ? for TJ and Rubi owners

[GTIRS]

I have a 2'' BB with Old Man Emu shocks on my 04 Rubicon. I recently, with Detours help installed a Warn M8000 winch, well this is my question- I lost a little hieght in the front from the wieght of the winch this was expected. The spacers for the BB are 2" obviously now I want a little more hieght but I don't want anything more than 3'' or at least even out the front and rear. Teraflex has a 3" basic lift with no shocks but I think my OME Shocks would work. Do I have to add the rear CV Yoke for that 3" lift? Any other ways to gain that 1" or can I add a 3/4" spacer up front on top of the 2" spacer to level out the front? Any other ideas I am pretty new to this.

 

[cjshloman]

I have a BDS 3" lift in my 98 tj and it needs no cv shaft, have no problems with it. Get the ACS coil thingies, then you can just crank out some more height. Skyjacker4x4 has them on his xj so he could tell you more about them. Bull.http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/orgs_acos/index.asp

 

[GTIRS]

who sells that Coil over Spacer (ACOS) and how durable is it and of course how much? :shock:

 

[GTIRS]

Yea you and me both were the lowest rigs on Sunday, I had the yellow Rubicon but we did pretty damn good considering. I think for the price I am better of getting the Tera 3" kit and use my OME shocks but lets see what other ideas poeple have, thanks. 8)

 

[NomadJeep]

Marco,
I have the Tera 3T" Your shocks will work but they will limit your travel. Info on the lift. It is the softest riding lit you can put on a TJ. They are the closest to OEM ride you can buy. As for sagging, they will a bit with a the Winch, however you can add small spacers for lift. (3/4 etc..)

I really like the lift, I wish I had the money for my next lift, or I would sell you mine.

If you are looking for a basic lift, it is the best you can get, all the next lifts up will have control arms. If you do go that route, I can give you a list of things you will need to add to the kit or any other, (Adj Trac bar etc..) Also a 1 inch Body lift will help you. Daystar make a good all in one unit.

If you have the money, you may want to go full kit, but I get the feeling you are not ready for that yet.

You will not need to change anything in you driveshaft, but I did not want to use the t-case lower kit, so I did the real easy motor mount lift. I have a ton of info for you if you like.

 

[GTIRS]

Well I am not ready for a "full" kit with new control arms, etc. You are right on that. I am looking for a simple 1" gain of ground clearence and a 3/4" spacer up front to level out the f and r. I here good things about the setup fron Tera and I think it may be my next move. send me some info on where I can get the best deal and anything else you think I may need. I may do a 3/4" spacer up front for now to compensate for the winch for now untill spring when I go for the basic kit.

 

[GTIRS]

I looked around and found those coilovers (ACOS) and there 200 bucks for a pair so in the end you spend $400+ on spacers when I can go and buy a basic 3" Teraflex kit for the same cost, what do you guys think? :?

 

[NomadJeep]

If you did the Acos, you would only need 2, but I would still go lift and add a small spacer.

 

[skyjackerXJ]

I'm using the ACOS. In this case I wouldn't use them. If you're planning to go 3" in the spring, use the 3/4" spacer. That spacer will most likely be used again with a new lift as well to even things out.

Tha ACOS are great if you plan them into the lift, or are sagging 1.25", which is the least amount of lift they offer.

To install the ACOS you need to cut the factory bumpstop mount down, and it would be a pain in the ass to go back to a stock type setup.

They're too expensive at $200 to not want to used them after switching lifts down the road, and having to fabricate to get back to a stock bumpstop setup.

 

[GTIRS]

Well I ordered 3/4" spacers from Rubicon Express last night to add up front for the sagging caused by the winch that should only take me an hour or less to put in for now. Come spring time and I am going to order the Teraflex 3" Basic kit 8) . The spacers are going to be used anyway with any setup due to the winch I guess so might as well put em in.

 

[NomadJeep]

that is the lift I want, however not yet

 

[jeep.xj.4x4]

If you did the Acos, you would only need 2, but I would still go lift and add a small spacer.

They also make the ACOS spacers for the rear of the TJ. This is why he said $400.

 

[NomadJeep]

If you did the Acos, you would only need 2, but I would still go lift and add a small spacer.

They also make the ACOS spacers for the rear of the TJ. This is why he said $400.

Yes I know that, but Maco's problem was to help with a saggin front from a warn winch... therefore he would only need the fronts... and even then, the better bet is to upgrade to a full coil with small spacers, :shock:

 

[GTIRS]

That is a nice looking kit but no shocks included? The only problem I see for me is $. I would need to get rid of my 31"s and obviously go to 33"s or larger and then the cost of the suspension, thats not something I can afford now so I will have to settle for the 3" lift with my OME shocks for now and continue using my 31"s until I need to replace them which may be a while considering I have less then 8k miles. I don't drive everyday I have a company truck. Thanks for the suggestion it may be in my future.

 

[jeep.xj.4x4]

If you did the Acos, you would only need 2, but I would still go lift and add a small spacer.

They also make the ACOS spacers for the rear of the TJ. This is why he said $400.

Yes I know that, but Maco's problem was to help with a saggin front from a warn winch... therefore he would only need the fronts... and even then, the better bet is to upgrade to a full coil with small spacers, :shock:

Budweiser...... True, true.

 

[GTIRS]

I see your point Steve it would be better to do the whole deal in one shot. Get the full complete 4" lift kit with all needed hardware,etc and then 33" tires but again it gets pretty expensive, understandable u get what u pay for. I wanted to start out simple with maybe a 3" lift but it all depends on cost when everything is said and done. I don't want to do it three times. I will probably install the 3/4" spacer up front to take care of the bumper and winches extra wieght and maybe consider a 1" body lift. The only thing is I need convincing on the body lift, does it make the body sloppy, is it a lot of work, how involved is it, who make the best one, and how would it look with my 31" stock Rubicon setup? If you guys can give some info that would clear things up.

 

[GTIRS]

So what your saying is to do a 1" body lift and a motor mount lift as well? How difficult would it be to do both? Can you point me in the direction of who to go with for the body lift and motor mount lift. :?

 

[J.R.Cabral]

I have one comment and it is off topic a little. Make sure your oil pan is protected. If you already have that covered than I am also a fan of doing it right the first time and spend the money once. I would stay away from the body lift until you need a little extra to stop the tires from rubbing and seeing that your not going to change tires that won't be an issue. You will lose a little under the rockers but that is what the diamond plate is for. with the money you save you can buy a CB and a High lift jack or an oil pan skid plate.

 

[J.R.Cabral]

Steve,

Does your suspension uses the triangulated rear upper arms? IF so does it eliminate the track bar and does the rear feel loose on the road. If its the kit I am thinking of it seems like a well designed kit with lots of parts.