The Rubicon & Poop
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Funny enough, guys I have talked to that frequent the area all tell me that people's shit (literally) is a big problem out there. They don't get a lot of rain to start the biodegradation process and there's just plain a lot of people shitting....
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Josh
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Maybe they should lay off the greasy burgers while out camping...
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JustinRuby03
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Well at least it isn't a permanent closure... but that will be their next step. People should learn how to bad their shit or let their dogs take care of it.
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ballistikjeeper
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sounds like thes guys need to give sani-king a ring :lol:
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Spotter
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I was just out at the Rubicon last month. While there I learned a lot from the trail. What I learned is that on the weekends it gets used nearly 24 hours a day. The Little Sluice is an awesome obstacle that brings the buggies out. Along one side of it is a very nice rock where people can gather around to watch the action and they do. Literally hundreds of them on a typical Saturday.
One of the cool things about little Sluice is that if you walk up the rock on the right side you walk up on Spider Lake. I think it is really cool to have to walk up hill and then see a lake. I guess that is what a mountain lake is, though.
When you get up to Spider Lake and walk around it you don't have to go very far to find a pile of human feces.
The Friends of the Rubicon are trying to do what they can. They have brought up port-a-potties and regularly maintain them. A problem that they are facing is that there are so few suitable locations for one. It is literally that much rock.
One good thing about FOTR is that they and POR have gotten things at the point where the BLM guys can know that if the Little Sluice is closed for 120 days that most wheelers will adhere to it. It has gotten to the point where the social conscience toward the area is one where other wheelers (many of them) will walk up to those wheelers who don't know or don't care and asked them to try another obstacle. It really is something to learn about the self policing that goes on.
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One of the cool things about little Sluice is that if you walk up the rock on the right side you walk up on Spider Lake. I think it is really cool to have to walk up hill and then see a lake. I guess that is what a mountain lake is, though.
When you get up to Spider Lake and walk around it you don't have to go very far to find a pile of human feces.
The Friends of the Rubicon are trying to do what they can. They have brought up port-a-potties and regularly maintain them. A problem that they are facing is that there are so few suitable locations for one. It is literally that much rock.
One good thing about FOTR is that they and POR have gotten things at the point where the BLM guys can know that if the Little Sluice is closed for 120 days that most wheelers will adhere to it. It has gotten to the point where the social conscience toward the area is one where other wheelers (many of them) will walk up to those wheelers who don't know or don't care and asked them to try another obstacle. It really is something to learn about the self policing that goes on.
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ballistikjeeper
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heres a way to stop the poopin problem :horseshit: :tp: :toilet:
http://www.bumperdumper.com/bumper2.htm
start selling these babys at the gate hahah :roll:
http://www.bumperdumper.com/bumper2.htm
start selling these babys at the gate hahah :roll:
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jon
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I have friends that back pack out near the rubicon. they follow the "pack in pack out" rule. Tey pack out everything they bring in except urine.
I guess shitting in a bag takes some skill. :lol: So if backpakers can control it i am sure wheelers can as well.
It took a while for the Leave No Trace, program to get spread in hiking, the same will eventually happen with tread lightly.
I guess shitting in a bag takes some skill. :lol: So if backpakers can control it i am sure wheelers can as well.
It took a while for the Leave No Trace, program to get spread in hiking, the same will eventually happen with tread lightly.
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Spotter
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I got this in my in box this morning...
You might want to run this as soon as you can.Â
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RUBICON TRAIL SPIDER LAKE: TEMPORARY CLOSURE TO PUBLIC USE
On July 15, 2004 Eldorado National Forest Supervisor John Berry signed a temporary order closing the Spider Lake area, adjacent to the Rubicon four-wheel drive trail, to public use for 120 days due to a public health hazard. The order closes the National Forest land around Spider Lake and works in conjunction with El Dorado County’s emergency resolution closing the private land in the area. The Rubicon 4WD trail is open for through traffic.
This closure was the result of human waste/sanitation issues around the high Sierra Nevada Spider Lake. The Rubicon Trail has no sanitation facilities and uninformed users were leaving human waste dangerously close to water sources. Friends of the Rubicon (FOTR) has been working with governing agencies for three years to get sanitation methods in place on the trail, but as of yet, no good solution has been found.
The Rubicon Trail runs through solid granite areas, with very shallow soil profiles. The shallow depth of the soils, combined with the solid granite prevalent throughout the area, make standard toilet options impractical. Further, because of the serious nature of four-wheeling required to traverse the trail, standard pumping trucks and extraction methods are not practical either.
FOTR, as well as other clubs, have been cleaning up the trail and removing the human waste for years. But this year the trail use increased dramatically and the human waste disposal became a real significant issue. There are no designated camping spots around Spider Lake, it is a dispersed camping area. So campers were spreading out over a wide area, and camping too close to the lake.
FOTR has launched a major effort to help both the County and the USDA Forest Service in the management of this increased use of the Rubicon Trail. It is hoped that the closure can be lifted sooner than the November 10 date. But for now, the Spider Lake area closed to all access of any kind. The Little Sluice Box and remainder of the Rubicon Trail are open as always.
Visit the Rubicon Trail Home Page for updates:Â www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/rubicon.htm
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Del Albright
You might want to run this as soon as you can.Â
Del
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RUBICON TRAIL SPIDER LAKE: TEMPORARY CLOSURE TO PUBLIC USE
On July 15, 2004 Eldorado National Forest Supervisor John Berry signed a temporary order closing the Spider Lake area, adjacent to the Rubicon four-wheel drive trail, to public use for 120 days due to a public health hazard. The order closes the National Forest land around Spider Lake and works in conjunction with El Dorado County’s emergency resolution closing the private land in the area. The Rubicon 4WD trail is open for through traffic.
This closure was the result of human waste/sanitation issues around the high Sierra Nevada Spider Lake. The Rubicon Trail has no sanitation facilities and uninformed users were leaving human waste dangerously close to water sources. Friends of the Rubicon (FOTR) has been working with governing agencies for three years to get sanitation methods in place on the trail, but as of yet, no good solution has been found.
The Rubicon Trail runs through solid granite areas, with very shallow soil profiles. The shallow depth of the soils, combined with the solid granite prevalent throughout the area, make standard toilet options impractical. Further, because of the serious nature of four-wheeling required to traverse the trail, standard pumping trucks and extraction methods are not practical either.
FOTR, as well as other clubs, have been cleaning up the trail and removing the human waste for years. But this year the trail use increased dramatically and the human waste disposal became a real significant issue. There are no designated camping spots around Spider Lake, it is a dispersed camping area. So campers were spreading out over a wide area, and camping too close to the lake.
FOTR has launched a major effort to help both the County and the USDA Forest Service in the management of this increased use of the Rubicon Trail. It is hoped that the closure can be lifted sooner than the November 10 date. But for now, the Spider Lake area closed to all access of any kind. The Little Sluice Box and remainder of the Rubicon Trail are open as always.
Visit the Rubicon Trail Home Page for updates:Â www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/rubicon.htm
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Del Albright
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Bullet said:One big steamy pile can ruin it for everyone
This has a "hole" new meanng when said by a person who has a napalm a$$ avatar.
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CJKarl
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Bullet said:These same people that are crapping all over the place probably yell at jeepers who drive off trail for not adhearing to the Tread Lightly way, yet their crap is doing way more damage to the eco-system then a 35" Swamper 8)
Backpackers and hikers out west all know that they need to pack out their waste so whats the problem with the wheeling community out there ?
Maybe I should move out there and offer my services as a Crap Nazi, I could go around writing tickets for those in violation
8) Get all camo'ed out and go salking around in the bushes. Wait till they got thier pants around thier ankles and WAMMO!! :shock: jump out with your ticket book. :twisted:
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